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		<title>Animal rights and wrongs</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2011/09/animal-rights-and-wrongs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;AlanA&#8221; at Harry&#8217;s Place takes great exception to posters from animal rights campaigners Animal Aid which encourage people not to donate to charities which fund animal experiments. In particular he objects to a lady called Joan Court who appears in this poster, calling her &#8221;a stupid woman who apparently believes that a human life – her life, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;AlanA&#8221; at Harry&#8217;s Place <a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2011/09/13/donate-to-effective-medical-charities/">takes great exception</a> to posters from animal rights campaigners <a href="http://hurryupharry.org/2011/09/13/donate-to-effective-medical-charities/">Animal Aid</a> which encourage people not to donate to charities which fund animal experiments. In particular he objects to a lady called Joan Court who appears in this poster, calling her &#8221;a stupid woman who apparently believes that a human life – her life, indeed – is equal in value to a that of her carnivorous cat.&#8221; This post is based on two comments which I made there in response.</p>
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<p>In my younger days I was a member of Animal Aid and took a keen interest in Animal Rights issues generally, and I did occasionally come across people like Joan Court who opposed vivisection despite having serious conditions themselves. Labelling such people as “stupid” for making a particular moral judgement which they are entirely entitled to make is pretty pathetic IMHO.</p>
<p>At the time I was completely opposed to vivisection but I reluctantly came believe that the benefits from using animals in experiments outweighed the moral objections, so I accept that there is a justification for a limited amount of such experiments (subject to tight controls) where it can be demonstrated that there are likely to be real benefits and there is no feasible alternate method. That doesn’t mean that the moral objections themselves are invalid and it’s an area where I still feel some discomfort, so I don’t agree with those who seem to dismiss such concerns entirely.<span id="more-125"></span><br />
Furthermore, I still have some sympathy towards Animal Aid – pressure from such groups has resulted in restrictions in some of the less justifiable experiments on animals, for example the EU restrictions on cosmetics testing and a reduction in the use of the LD50 test, and they campaign on issues other than vivisection. I don’t think one has to agree with all of the aims of campaign groups to see them as playing a necessary role.</p>
<p>On the question of whether animals actually have &#8220;rights&#8221; I’m not sure that such arguments are really productive or necessary. Personally I don’t have much objection to the concept, with the caveats they any such rights only apply to animals’ interractions with humans, not other animals, and that it doesn’t necessary imply that they have the same rights as humans. But I think it is generally accepted that humans do have certain moral responsibilites in the way we treat animals from which follow certain limitations on our behaviour towards them, and most questions surrounding “animal rights” can be couched in terms that question where the boundaries of those responsibilities and behaviour lie.</p>
<p>Finally, there is another point raised by AlanA which should be addressed. He claims that people opposed to vivisection should refuse any kind of medical treatment which was developed using animals. But this post is long enough already - I will return to that question in a future post.</p>
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		<title>It&#8217;s that time again&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2011/09/its-that-time-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Having been away for a year or so for no good reason other than laziness I thought I would return with something suitably trivial.
And I happened to notice that today is&#8230;. International Talk Like a Pirate Day, so in the true spirit of the occasion here are my contributions.
&#8220;Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh&#8221;
 &#8221;Shiver me timbers&#8221;
 &#8221;Avast ye blustering bilge rat&#8221;
&#8220;Give [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span lang="EN-GB">Having been away for a year or so for no good reason other than laziness I thought I would return with something suitably trivial.</span></p>
<p>And I happened to notice that today is&#8230;. <a href="http://www.talklikeapirate.com">International Talk Like a Pirate Day</a>, so in the true spirit of the occasion here are my contributions.</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">&#8220;Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh&#8221;</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left"> &#8221;Shiver me timbers&#8221;</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left"> &#8221;Avast ye blustering bilge rat&#8221;</p>
<p dir="ltr" align="left">&#8220;Give me a million dollars and you can have your oil tanker back.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The last acceptable prejudice</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/08/the-last-acceptable-bigotry/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Liberal Conspiracy had an excellent piece earlier this week about the discrimination and persecution suffered by Romani citizens of various EU countries. I won&#8217;t quote excerpts here as it really is worth reading the whole thing, but I am glad to see that this rarely publicised issue is finally starting to get the attention it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberal Conspiracy had an <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2010/08/02/why-arent-we-talking-about-europes-roma-shame/">excellent piece </a>earlier this week about the discrimination and persecution suffered by Romani citizens of various EU countries. I won&#8217;t quote excerpts here as it really is worth reading the whole thing, but I am glad to see that this rarely publicised issue is finally starting to get the attention it deserves (I&#8217;m not trying to claim any moral high ground here, this is my first post on the subject). </p>
<p>Two contrasting pieces in Saturday&#8217;s newspapers sum up the problem perfectly and show that even if this country does not have the kind of instututionalised discrimination seen in others bigotry towards the Roma is seemingly the last acceptable prejudice. Firstly, here is <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/30/european-union-roma-human-rights">the Guardian</a> </p>
<blockquote><p>The European Union was today accused of &#8220;turning a blind eye&#8221; as countries across Europe carried out a wave of expulsions and introduced new legislation targeting the Roma.</p>
<p>Human rights groups criticised the EU for failing to address the real issues driving Europe&#8217;s largest ethnic minority to migrate in the first place and for choosing not to upbraid countries for breaking both domestic and EU laws in their treatment of them.</p></blockquote>
<p>And here is the Express.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/express.jpg'><img src="http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/express.jpg" alt="" title="express" width="159" height="200" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-123" /></a></p>
<p>Now it has to be said that the Express is happy to display its own brand of racism towards all sorts of minority groups, immigrants and (especially) asylum seekers, so it would be unfair to accuse it of specifically targetting Roma, but it is still not unusual to hear people expressing views about &#8220;Pikeys&#8221; when they would never use phrases such as &#8220;Pakis&#8221; or &#8220;Yids&#8221;, and it is unlikely that the Express headline raised many eyebrows.  This needs to change.</p>
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		<title>Election - 7.25am update</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/05/election-725am-update/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 06:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[So it will be a hung parliament, we know that much. The biggest story (apart from the problems with the vote itself) is the collapse in LibDem support, their overall share of the vote is about the same as last time and they are currently 5 seats down - a desperately disappointing night for them. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it will be a hung parliament, we know that much. The biggest story (apart from the problems with the vote itself) is the collapse in LibDem support, their overall share of the vote is about the same as last time and they are currently 5 seats down - a desperately disappointing night for them. Two small causes for comfort - it was good to see Caroline Lucas win a seat for the Greens and the Tories won&#8217;t get an overall majority which seemed possible when the early results came in.<br />
Cameron has of course been staking his claim to form a government, stressing that the results so far demonstrate that the voters have given a clear message that they want change, but given that the Tories have lost a number of seats they were hoping to win and the LibDems have faded I&#8217;m not sure that really holds up.<br />
There has been much talk of Labour and the LibDems doing a deal but they are not going to have enough seats between them to have a majority. And much as I hate to say it, given the Tories considerable lead in the share of the vote they do probably have a moral case to try to form a government.</p>
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		<title>Election - 2.45am update</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/05/election-245am-update/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Election organisers - shit. People unable to vote, polling stations running out of ballot papers, postal votes going missing. 
LibDems - shit. What the hell happened to Cleggmania?
BBC coverage - shit. Andrew Neill on a boat talking to celebrities while actual results are being ignored.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Election organisers - shit. People unable to vote, polling stations running out of ballot papers, postal votes going missing. </p>
<p>LibDems - shit. What the hell happened to Cleggmania?</p>
<p>BBC coverage - shit. Andrew Neill on a boat talking to celebrities while actual results are being ignored.</p>
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		<title>Labour in the dock (again)</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/05/labour-in-the-dock-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Even in its (probable) dying days of power Labour is still being taken to task by the courts for railroading civil liberties under the pretence of protecting national security.
As the Guardian reports
The court of appeal has dismissed an attempt by MI5 and MI6 to suppress evidence of their alleged complicity in the torture and secret [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in its (probable) dying days of power Labour is still being taken to task by the courts for railroading civil liberties under the pretence of protecting national security.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/04/government-secret-evidence-guantanamo-torture">the Guardian</a> reports</p>
<blockquote><p>The court of appeal has dismissed an attempt by MI5 and MI6 to suppress evidence of their alleged complicity in the torture and secret transfer of British residents to Guantánamo Bay.<br />
In a devastating judgment, it ruled that the unprecedented attempt by the security and intelligence agencies, backed by the attorney general and senior Whitehall officials, to suppress evidence in a civil trial undermined deep-seated principles of common law and open justice.</p>
<p>MI5 and MI6 said evidence in the case, in which the Guardian, the Times and the BBC intervened, should be kept secret from everyone except the judges and specially appointed and vetted counsel.</p></blockquote>
<p>The case concerns six Guantanamo detainees, including <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7906381.stm">Binyam Mohamed</a>,  who has already won a <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/26/torture-ruling-passages-mi5-restored">separate case</a> to make public information regarding his mistreatment. They have taken out a civil action against the government in respect of various abuses including torture and false imprisonment. The government was attempting to have the entire case heard in secret with evidence used in the government&#8217;s defence withheld from the claimants, a flagrant breach of natural justice. One of the judges who made the ruling, Lord Neuberger, put it perfectly -  </p>
<blockquote><p>The principle that a litigant should be able to see and hear all the evidence which is seen and heard by a court determining his case is so fundamental, so embedded in the common law, that, in the absence of parliamentary authority, no judge should override it … [it] represents an irreducible minimum requirement of an ordinary civil trial,</p></blockquote>
<p>This follows a <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/apr/29/terror-suspects-family-benefits">ruling</a> last week by the European Court of Justice that restrictions on the payment of benefits to the wives of individuals who have had their assets frozen due to suspected terrorist activity are illegal. The restrictions included only being allowed to withdraw £10 a week in cash for each member of the household and having to regularly submit detailed reports of their finances to the Treasury. Right to the very end Labour has refused to learn that these kind of spiteful and vindictive measures do nothing to combat terrorism and do everything to undermine public support for the fight against it.  </p>
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		<title>Taking Brown to task on child detention</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/05/taking-brown-to-task-on-child-detention/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 07:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[An excellent piece at OurKingdom by Clare Sambrook, who takes apart Gordon Brown&#8217;s defence of the detention of the children of asylum seekers. 
We believe that history will judge the administrative detention of children to be a moral stain on the reputation of this country, akin to slavery and child labour. One day we will [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent piece at <a href="http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/clare-sambrook/what-you-didnt-hear-about-citizens-uk-speech-gordon-brown-on-child-detenti">OurKingdom</a> by Clare Sambrook, who takes apart Gordon Brown&#8217;s defence of the detention of the children of asylum seekers. </p>
<blockquote><p>We believe that history will judge the administrative detention of children to be a moral stain on the reputation of this country, akin to slavery and child labour. One day we will look back in horror at the fact that innocent children, no different from our own, and capable of experiencing the same joy and wonder at the world and feeling the same anxiety, fear and pain were imprisoned in our name.</p></blockquote>
<p>This issue, and the treatment of asylum seekers in general, is the great unsung scandal in this country. Meanwhile the leaders of our political parties bicker over who can be &#8220;toughest&#8221; on immigration.</p>
<p>H/T Justin @ <a href="http://www.chickyog.net/">Chicken Yoghurt</a></p>
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		<title>Socialised healthcare? Yes please!</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/03/socialised-healthcare-yes-please/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I commented on Barack Obama&#8217;s difficulties last week things have improved for him considerably, with his healthcare reforms finally signed into law.
The final bill may not be entirely what many on the left were hoping for but given the entrenched interests he was battling against and the wholly dishonest and unprincipled disinformation campaign by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I <a href="http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/03/return-of-the-undead/">commented</a> on Barack Obama&#8217;s difficulties last week things have improved for him considerably, with his healthcare reforms finally <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/mar/23/us-healthcare-reform-obama-law">signed into law</a>.</p>
<p>The final bill may not be entirely what many on the left were hoping for but given the entrenched interests he was battling against and the wholly dishonest and unprincipled disinformation campaign by his opponents (&#8221;death panels&#8221; etc) this is still a considerable achievement.</p>
<p>Unsurprisingly there has been a rather hysterical reaction from opponents on the right, for example <a href="http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2010/03/on-the-record.html">this</a> from GOP congressman Devin Nunes</p>
<blockquote><p>Today we are turning back the clock. For most of the 21st century, people fled the ghosts of communist dictators and now you&#8217;re bringing the ghost back into this chamber. With passage of this bill, they will haunt Americans for generations. Your multi-trillion dollar health care bill continues the Soviets, failed Soviet socialist experiment. It gives the federal government absolute control over healthcare in America.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well quite, why would Americans want a socialised, communist even, system like that in the UK - where the state exerts so much control over our healthcare, spending our tax dollars (or rather pounds) with abandon?</p>
<p>P.S. According to the <a href="http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx">OECD</a>, <em>public</em> spending on health in 2007 as a proportion of GDP was -</p>
<p>UK - 6.86%<br />
USA - 7.26%</p>
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		<title>Gordon&#8217;s revenge</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/03/gordons-revenge/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s good to see that Labour has taken such quick and decisive action against the former ministers caught up in the lobbying sting. It would be nice to think that this is a purely principled reaction and the start of a crackdown on political lobbying and on former ministers filling their boots by taking lucrative [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to see that Labour has taken such <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/23/ex-ministers-suspended-lobbying-allegations">quick and decisive action</a> against the former ministers caught up in the lobbying sting. It would be nice to think that this is a purely principled reaction and the start of a crackdown on political lobbying and on former ministers filling their boots by taking lucrative jobs either with lobbying firms or companies which had dealings with their departments while they were ministers (see <a href="http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2009/02/snouts-in-the-trough/">here</a> for example).<br />
Or just possibly it has someting to do with the fact that two of the ministers, Hewitt and Hoon, were involved in the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8443461.stm">abortive coup</a> against Brown earlier this year.<br />
Either way, given the sheer useless they displayed during their ministerial careers it is difficult to have any sympathy for Hoon and Hewitt.</p>
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		<title>Return of the undead</title>
		<link>http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/2010/03/return-of-the-undead/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been another difficult week for Barack Obama, with his little problem with Israel. What with his problems getting his healthcare reforms through congress and in finding a way to close Guantanamo Bay it might be understandable if Liberals on both sides of the pond were getting slightly frustrated, so it is fitting that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been another difficult week for Barack Obama, with his little problem with Israel. What with his problems getting his healthcare reforms through congress and in finding a way to close Guantanamo Bay it might be understandable if Liberals on both sides of the pond were getting slightly frustrated, so it is fitting that in the last few days we have been given a reminder of why, whatever Obama&#8217;s faults, we should at least be truly grateful that the Republicans, or specifically the particular faction represented by Bush and his cronies, are out of power.</p>
<p>First we have Bush’s chief political strategist Karl Rove doing the rounds, touting his book and <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/12/waterboarding-terrorism-guantanamo-karl-rove">defending the use of waterboarding</a> on terrorist subjects.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m proud that we used techniques that broke the will of these terrorists and gave us valuable information that allowed us to foil plots such as flying aeroplanes into Heathrow and into London, bringing down aircraft over the Pacific, flying an aeroplane into the tallest building in Los Angeles and other plots,&#8221; he said.<br />
&#8220;Yes, I&#8217;m proud that we kept the world safer than it was, by the use of these techniques. They&#8217;re appropriate, they&#8217;re in conformity with our international requirements and with US law.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>All very noble sounding of course, but even if one accepts that waterboarding does not constitute torture (and that requires a rather wide stretch of the imagination) we should be aware that this was only one kind of abuse which was suffered by detainees and remember the practice of extraordinary rendition, the black prison network and the outsourcing of torture to regimes less concerned with their international obligations and legal niceties. <span id="more-111"></span></p>
<p>Then we have Liz Cheney, daughter of Dick, representative of the right wing pressure group “Keep America Safe” and herself a <a href="http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=09&amp;year=2009&amp;base_name=the_irony_of_liz_cheney#116801">cheerleader for torture</a>, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/11/liz-cheney-keep-america-safe">attacking lawyers</a> who defended those accused of terrorism.</p>
<blockquote><p>Liz Cheney and her organisation, Keep America Safe, have dubbed lawyers who acted on behalf of accused terrorists, and who now work for the department of justice, the &#8220;al-Qaida seven&#8221;. The group has rebranded the justice department the &#8220;department of jihad&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>This ignores the fact that some of those lawyers were specifically asked to act on behalf of the accused by the Bush administration, and that as a result of their actions some suspects have been found to be innocent of any terrorist activity. It also rides roughshod over the basic principles of the American justice system which state that even the worst offender is entitled to a defence. And it is not only those on the left who object to such claims - that noted bleeding heart Kenneth Starr is quoted as saying</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;This was very unwise and really an out-of-bounds characterisation and challenge to good, honourable lawyers,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s very important for lawyers to be willing to take on unpopular causes to make sure that power is checked, that there are, in fact, arguments being advanced on behalf of those who have been subjected to governmental power.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ms Cheney appears to be living proof of the adage that the apple never falls far from the tree</p>
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